[arin-ppml] NRPM 4.10 - is a /10 large enough?

[Leslie Nobile]

To confirm, the /10 reserved for IPv6 transition and the /16 reserved for
micro-allocations are not included in the daily IPv4 inventory counter on
the ARIN homepage.

Leslie



On 4/29/14 2:23 PM, "David Farmer" <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:

>If I'm not mistaken the reserved /10 for IPv6 deployment and /16 for
>micro-allocations is not included in the counter.  Could staff confirm
>please.
>
>Further, there is an additional approximately /10 that will come from
>the IANA recovered address pool.  I'm comfortable with this being
>reserved for special purposes, if we see fit.
>
>However, I'm not comfortable with reserving more out of the current free
>pool at this point.  We are well past the point where making that kind
>of change can occur without causing potentially bad side effects.  Any
>drastic change in what is available for normal allocations at this point
>is likely create a panic.
>
>We discussed this as a community, there were proposals to reserve larger
>chunks including the whole last /8 as RIPE and APNIC did.  We chose this
>strategy.  In some situations never is better than too late.
>
>My best advice is find your towel and DON'T PANIC!
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Panic_(The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_th
>e_Galaxy)#Knowing_where_one.27s_towel_is
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Panic_(The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_th
>e_Galaxy)#Don.27t_Panic
>
>
>Thanks
>
>On 4/29/14, 12:54 , Bill Owens wrote:
>> A couple of recent threads here and my general sense of the (lack of)
>>urgency around IPv6 deployment has made me wonder whether setting aside
>>a /10 under NRPM 4.10 - Dedicated IPv4 block to facilitate IPv6
>>Deployment - is really going to be enough. I was looking at Geoff
>>Huston's graphs (http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/) and noticed that
>>both RIPE and APNIC, by coincidence, will be using up the first /10 out
>>of their reserved /8s at about the same time, near the end of this year.
>>A naive calculation says that APNIC will go through the /10 in about 3.5
>>years, and RIPE in about 2.2 years. Of course it is difficult to predict
>>how the runout of the reserved /10 under 4.10 will look, but I think
>>it's reasonable to assume that it won't be any slower than 2-3 years,
>>since unlike RIPE and APNIC there's no limit to how much space an entity
>>can receive under 4.10, only the pace at which it can be handed out;
>>assuming the maximum rate, a /22 can be issued to someone every two
>>years,
>  r
>>   ather than once and done as with the other two RIRs.
>>
>> Given that the inventory currently contains one /9 and one /10, we are
>>getting close to the point where any additional set-asides will no
>>longer be possible, so I thought it might be worthwhile at least
>>considering whether the 4.10 pool ought to be enlarged while it still
>>can be. . .
>>
>> Bill.
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