[arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

[Steven Ryerse]

If an org with no resources applies they should at least be able to get the minimum which has been set by this community which I think is currently at a /22.  Always!

If an org wants larger than a /22 they need to be able to demonstrate in a reasonable way that they are a larger org with a network size that justifies a larger allocation.  The first way is what allocation do they already have?  If they have say a /19  or equivalent maybe they can demonstrate they need say another /19 by furnishing to ARIN maybe their financials and the investment they have actually made to justify another /19 or whatever.  (I'm just using the /19 as an example.)

If an org wants say a /9 which is obviously a very large block, they need to justify that in a similar way that T-Mobile did with ARIN a while back when they got something like 3/4 of a /8.  

Organizations supply financials to Banks all the time and this and supplying network info can be a similar process.  If an org can prove they just spent 50 million on a new data center then that should be justification to get an allocation of a size to run that size data center. 

So if we want the current minimum we should just apply and it should be allocated, and as long as we keep paying our fees to ARIN it is ours to use.  If we stop paying that block goes back into the pool that ARIN has to allocate.  

If we want a /19 or a /16 then we need to satisfy ARIN that we are an org of that size and have a network that justifies a /19 or a /16.  And maybe prove the actual expenditures. 

And if we want a /9, regardless of what we have now, we're gonna really have to provide solid info that justifies the size of our org and the size of our network justifies a /9.  

This is not rocket science. It would however require the input of the many knowledgeable members of this community to help determine what is require at each level.  I think this community could handle that just fine!

Steven Ryerse
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-----Original Message-----
From: Morizot Timothy S [mailto:Timothy.S.Morizot at irs.gov] 
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 1:32 PM
To: Steven Ryerse; David Huberman; arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: RE: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 106, Issue 8

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Ryerse [mailto:SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 12:26 PM
> 
> ARIN should not be in the business of turning down resource requests 
> if they have the resources to allocate - EVER.  Doing so is arbitrary 
> and discriminatory.  ARIN should only be in the business of right 
> sizing allocations to match the size of the organization (including 
> their existing network size) making the request - AND - keeping the 
> registry database as accurate as possible.

So which is it? Should they never EVER turn down resource requests? Or should they "right-size" them, which by any definition you might set means there are some requests they would deny altogether?

Do you truly fail to see the logical inconsistency in the paragraph above?

Scott