[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles - revised

CJ Aronson cja at daydream.com
Wed Sep 18 19:33:10 EDT 2013


Chris there is no process for "globally coordinated" policies.   I wrote
one long ago but it never went anywhere.

----Cathy


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:07 PM, CJ Aronson <cja at daydream.com> wrote:
>
>> Someone help me here.
>> I am not sure this would qualify as a "global policy" in terms of the ASO
>> MOU.  The document is here
>> http://archive.icann.org/en/aso/aso-mou-29oct04.htm
>> I have always been told that an global policy is distinctly one that
>> regulates the interaction between ICANN/IANA and the RIRs.  Like policies
>> for giving out blocks of address space or ASNs by the IANA, etc.
>>
>> The MOU says this and I am not sure this policy would meet this..
>>
>
> In the past I've heard a distinction made between a global policy (under
> the MOU, related to IANA) and a globally coordinated policy (all RIRs agree
> on a policy but it only governs RIR behavior). However, in this particular
> case, at this particular time, neither applies to ARIN-2013-4. The global
> options could be explored now or in the future if folks so desire.
>
> Thanks for clarifying Cathy!
>
> Cheers,
> ~Chris
>
>
>> Thanks
>> ----Cathy
>>
>> "*5. Global Policy Development Process*
>>
>> Global policies are defined within the scope of this agreement as
>> Internet number resource policies that have the agreement of all RIRs
>> according to their policy development processes and ICANN, and require
>> specific actions or outcomes on the part of IANA or any other external
>> ICANN-related body in order to be implemented.
>>
>> Global policies will be developed in the context of this agreement,
>> according to the processes defined by attachment A to this MoU.
>>
>> Under this agreement the ICANN Board will ratify proposed global policies
>> in accordance with the Global Policy Development Process, using review
>> procedures as determined by ICANN. ICANN will publish these procedures no
>> later than ninety (90) days from the date of the signature of this
>> agreement by all parties.
>> "
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM, David Conrad <drc at virtualized.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chris,
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 17, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > This current text aims to document existing practice based on
>>>> historical norms which best instruct the driving principles required to
>>>> successfully operate an RIR.
>>>>
>>>> Apologies if this has been discussed before, but is this intended to be
>>>> a 'global policy' (in the unanimous among all RIRs and ratified by ICANN
>>>> board sense)?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Currently ARIN-2013-4 has only been submitted in the ARIN region. There
>>> has been some discussion of making it a global proposal, which would
>>> require someone submitting the same text in all five regions (and all five
>>> regions agreeing to the same text), but that has not happened at this point.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> ~Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -drc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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