[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

[Owen DeLong]

On Sep 25, 2013, at 11:33 AM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:59 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>> must
>> provide proof that they (1) are an active business entity legally
>> operating within the ARIN service region
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Speaking for myself, this is unacceptable. I am adamantly, totally,
> 100% against this, in concept and execution.
> 
> This kind of restriction on international commerce is usually reserved
> for national security issues. Foreign interests own ARIN region
> infrastructure and do business with ARIN region customers all the
> time, without registering themselves with the government. Just as
> ARIN-region businesses do in Europe, Asia and elsewhere. Until there's
> a need for employees in a country, it's not generally necessary and
> often inappropriate to incorporate there.

Foreign interests that own ARIN region infrastructure and do business in
the ARIN region are either legally operating within the ARIN service region,
or, they are violating the law by doing so, so I am not sure what it is that
you find objectionable.

For example, a German company operating in Virginia that has filed all
of the necessary paperwork, has the proper permits and licenses, etc.
would qualify under the above provision. They are:
	1.	An active business entity
	2.	Legally operating within the ARIN region

> I think ARIN should continue to follow the same ordinary business
> practice everyone else does when it comes to the legal status of its
> registrants: as long as there's a contactable legal existence
> somewhere (and it's incumbent on the registrant to prove it) they
> should pass muster as an organization capable of requesting resources.

If they aren't operating in the region, why should they be able to receive
resources from ARIN instead of having to get them from an RIR that serves
someplace that they do operate?

Owen