[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles - revised

Thu Sep 19 08:35:51 EDT 2013

Thanks Jason.

One other option, which I personally like, is that we can continue to process as is and then if/when there is a global opportunity initiated ARIN can participate in that as well. That one of the nice things about policy, it can be changed as required.

From: Jason Schiller <jschiller at google.com<mailto:jschiller at google.com>>
Date: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:24 PM
To: CJ Aronson <cja at daydream.com<mailto:cja at daydream.com>>
Cc: "arin-ppml at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>" <arin-ppml at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles - revised

As written is does not qualify as a global policy nor a globally coordinated policy.

However one could image it *could* be written, such that IANA would also adopt these principles and these principles should be considered wrt policy of allocation of number resources to RIRs.

This would mean two things:

1. we, the global community, should also take these principles in consideration when developing draft global policies.

2. we, the ARIN region community could pass this (now) global policy, and have it not take effect until the four other regions also pass it and the ICANN board ratify it.

Optionally we could craft it as a regional policy that automatically gets elevated to a global policy should it pass all five RIRs.

The comments were a suggestion about the two points above, and a hint to get people to think if it should be written in such a way as to make it global and binding on IANA.

___Jason

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:07 PM, CJ Aronson <cja at daydream.com<mailto:cja at daydream.com>> wrote:
Someone help me here.
I am not sure this would qualify as a "global policy" in terms of the ASO MOU.  The document is here
http://archive.icann.org/en/aso/aso-mou-29oct04.htm
I have always been told that an global policy is distinctly one that regulates the interaction between ICANN/IANA and the RIRs.  Like policies for giving out blocks of address space or ASNs by the IANA, etc.

The MOU says this and I am not sure this policy would meet this..

Thanks
----Cathy

"5. Global Policy Development Process

Global policies are defined within the scope of this agreement as Internet number resource policies that have the agreement of all RIRs according to their policy development processes and ICANN, and require specific actions or outcomes on the part of IANA or any other external ICANN-related body in order to be implemented.

Global policies will be developed in the context of this agreement, according to the processes defined by attachment A to this MoU.

Under this agreement the ICANN Board will ratify proposed global policies in accordance with the Global Policy Development Process, using review procedures as determined by ICANN. ICANN will publish these procedures no later than ninety (90) days from the date of the signature of this agreement by all parties.

"

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com<mailto:cgrundemann at gmail.com>> wrote:

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:21 PM, David Conrad <drc at virtualized.org<mailto:drc at virtualized.org>> wrote:
Chris,

On Sep 17, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com<mailto:cgrundemann at gmail.com>> wrote:
> This current text aims to document existing practice based on historical norms which best instruct the driving principles required to successfully operate an RIR.

Apologies if this has been discussed before, but is this intended to be a 'global policy' (in the unanimous among all RIRs and ratified by ICANN board sense)?

Currently ARIN-2013-4 has only been submitted in the ARIN region. There has been some discussion of making it a global proposal, which would require someone submitting the same text in all five regions (and all five regions agreeing to the same text), but that has not happened at this point.

HTH,
~Chris

Thanks,
-drc

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