[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised Problem Statement and Policy Text

[Blake Dunlap]

Why would we want to restrict from allocation to individuals if they can
justify it? Very opposed to that alone, above and beyond my opposition to
regional restrictions.

-Blake


On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Brian Jones <bjones at vt.edu> wrote:

> +1 to your suggestion:
>
>
> "
> This policy is not intended to have any retroactive effect.  It should not
> be construed to effect or invalidate any assignment or allocation
> previously made by ARIN, one of its predecessor registries, or any ISP or
> other LIR, based on good faith application information.  In particular
> direct assignments previously made to individuals are not invalidated by
> this policy.  However, this policy is intended to disallow any new
> assignment or allocation made directly to an individual person, as is
> current operational practice.
> "
>
> --
> Brian
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
>
>> On 9/12/13 21:41 , David Farmer wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/12/13 13:19 , William Herrin wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:25 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> X. Resource Justification within ARIN Region
>>>>> Organizations requesting Internet number resources from ARIN must
>>>>> provide proof that they (1) are an active business entity legally
>>>>> operating within the ARIN service region, and
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am not an active business entity, hence my AS number registration
>>>> (AS 11875), used for multihomed network entirely in the U.S. State of
>>>> Virginia would violate this policy as drafted.
>>>>
>>>> I tend to think of that as a bad thing.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't believe individuals (as an individual person) are allowed to
>>> request resources any longer.  A business could be a sole
>>> proprietorship, and in every day terms there isn't that much difference,
>>> but legally there is I believe.
>>>
>>> But, your historical individual assignment isn't intended to be in
>>> violation of this policy.  The policy is intended to apply to requesting
>>> (new or additional) resources.  Just as it is intended to apply to how
>>> you justify resources, not how you use them in your network once
>>> allocated or assigned.
>>>
>>
>> Thinking about this a little more, this policy is not intended to be an
>> ex post facto rule, nor in general do I think it is appropriate for any
>> policy to have retroactive effect without some extraordinary reason and
>> justification for such an effect.  Furthermore, I don't think ARIN staff
>> would consider any policy to have retroactive effect without very explicit
>> direction from the community that a policy should have such an effect, and
>> calling that out in the staff and legal review.
>>
>> For an abundance of clarity I'd be happy to add something like the
>> following in the Advisory Council Comments section before the text freeze;
>>
>> This policy is not intended to have any retroactive effect.  It should
>> not be construed to effect or invalidate any assignment or allocation
>> previously made by ARIN, one of its predecessor registries, or any ISP or
>> other LIR, based on good faith application information.  In particular
>> direct assignments previously made to individuals are not invalidated by
>> this policy.  However, this policy is intended to disallow any new
>> assignment or allocation made directly to an individual person, as is
>> current operational practice.
>>
>>
>> --
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