[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

[William Herrin]

On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:38 AM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 12:20 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 3:53 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:55 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>>>> Since June 2013, there have been 52 requests that would not have
>>>> been approved under the new policy because these organizations
>>>> had only some equipment in a data center in the ARIN region, but
>>>> either all or most of their technical infrastructure outside of the region
>>>> and most or all of their customers outside of the ARIN region.

>>   ARIN's procedures for requesters has not changed since the Policy
>>   Implementation and Experience Report addressing this topic (at the
>>   ARIN 31 meeting in Bridgetown [April 2013 -- Bill]); hence, the 52
>>   requests would still
>>   be processed.  As noted earlier to Frank, I believe that the text
>>   sent in response should be reviewed, and we will do so upon the
>>   disposition of Draft Policy 2013-6, regardless of outcome.
>
> To be clear, ARIN sent the following text (as quoted by Frank) to the
> above 52 requestors and they replied in the affirmative?
>
>         Please reply and verify that you will be using
>         the requested number resources within the ARIN region
>         and announcing all routing prefixes of the requested
>         space from within the ARIN region. In accordance with
>         section 2.2 of the NRPM, ARIN issues number resources
>         only for use within its region. ARIN is therefore only
>         able to provide for your in-region numbering needs.


On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:53 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>   ARIN does not disclose requests received for number resources
>   management.

You just did, John. You just reported that 52 requests were filled
which would not have been under the draft policy. There you are doing
it in the quotes above.


>   To provide some insight, however, organizations often reference
>   NRPM (and assert compliance with the policy therein) when their
>   interpretation is different from that of the staff implementation.
>
>   While staff tries to be true to the language (and the spirit) of
>   number resource policy as adopted, diligent requesters who have
>   a credible claim of compliance to NRPM are approved.

It's an simple question John. Please stop ducking it.

You reported that 52 organizations received addresses from ARIN
although "all or most" of their infrastructure and customers were
outside the ARIN region.

You stated that the reported message (demanding certification that the
infrastructure be in-region) was part of ARIN's procedures throughout
the time period in which the 52 requests were honored.

What gives?


Regards,
Bill Herrin




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