[arin-ppml] Bootstrapping new entrants after IPv4 exhaustion

Bill Darte billdarte at gmail.com
Sun Nov 24 19:18:09 EST 2013

New entrants cannot hope to compete in a long term strategy with only
limited amounts of v4.  So they will have to go to the transfer market if
they need more.  Isn't the transfer market about enabling people who
'really want or need' v4 that opportunity.  But, I agree that having some
v4 for start ups is probably still a requirement for now, so I would
consider a single small block.....still, if v6 deployment is delayed longer
than we hope, then the v4 for new entrants may still run out.  What do we
do for those folks.....  We cannot continue to move the deck chairs to
forestall the move to v6 forever....


On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:58 PM, CJ Aronson <cja at daydream.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>> Yes, but it limits that use to strictly transitional technology
>> deployment, not general IPv4 utilization.
> I think this is something we should be discussing.  Right now the only
> post run out policy ARIN has is for the last /10.  You  can get a block
> (very small) out of this for transition technologies only.  There is no
> provision for new entrants except the transfer market in the ARIN region.
> So some of us, and Scott started the discussion going, want to clean up
> the policy manual so that it makes sense for ARIN post run out.  We could
> also make a policy like in the other regions that gives a specific size
> block to everyone (or maybe just new entrants?) out of some of the last
> space.  If we are going to add the second option then time is really short.
> we made the final /10 policy a very long time ago and maybe not everyone
> realizes it is just for transition? Do people still think this makes sense?
> Thanks!
> ----Cathy
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