[arin-ppml] Bootstrapping new entrants after IPv4 exhaustion

David Farmer farmer at umn.edu
Wed Nov 27 12:15:12 EST 2013


FYI, Proposal 191, was just advanced as Draft Policy ARIN-2013-8 
"Subsequent Allocations for Additional Discrete Network Sites"

On 11/25/13, 17:45 , David Huberman wrote:
> Which one is 191, please?
>
> David R Huberman
> Microsoft Corporation
> Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 3:40:05 PM
> To: David Huberman
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Bootstrapping new entrants after IPv4 exhaustion
>
> I actually like and could support this.
>
> (Though I don’t think it’s a panacea for the ISP vs. end-user debate in its entirety, from a policy perspective, I’m fine with the policy as expressed.)
>
> The one caveat is that I wouldn’t want to see this implemented in such a way that it would potentially interfere with what is currently known as proposal 191 if that achieves consensus (which I think is likely).
>
> Owen
>
> On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:45 PM, David Huberman <David.Huberman at microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Scott wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not sure it's all that helpful to ask me to re-justify the entire NRPM.
>>> That requirement, in a more strict form, is what is present in the NRPM today.
>>
>> But we can't make policy for policy's sake. ARIN exists to, in part, provide number resources to the operator community who needs them.  Section 4 of the NRPPM serves the needs of the network operator community circa 1996, not 2014 and beyond.   So how about:
>>
>> 4.2.0:
>>
>> An ISP can obtain an initial allocation of a /24 or larger by demonstrating a need to use at least 25% of the space within 90 days, and at least 50% of the space within one year.
>>
>> 4.2.1
>>
>> An ISP can obtain an additional allocations by demonstrating 80% or better utilization of existing address space. The additional allocation block size determination uses the criterion in 4.2.0
>>
>> 4.3.0
>>
>> An end-user can obtain an initial assignment of a /24 or larger by demonstrating a need to use at least 25% of the space within 90 days, and at least 50% of the space within one year.
>>
>> 4.3.1
>>
>> An end-user can obtain an additional assignment by demonstrating 80% or better utilization of existing address space. The additional assignment block size determination uses the criterion in 4.3.0
>>
>> Throw in a section on SWIP, keep 4.5 MDN as-is, and presto, you're done with section 4, and you've fixed NRPM 8.3 and you've harmonized the very broken ISP v End-user mechanic.
>>
>> Doesn't this serve the network operator community in 2014 better than making small changes to walls and walls of text from 1996?
>>
>> David R Huberman
>> Microsoft Corporation
>> Senior IT/OPS Program Manager (GFS)
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