[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-3: Tiny IPv6 Allocations for ISPs

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Thu Mar 28 01:17:37 EDT 2013

On Mar 27, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Brandon Ross <bross at pobox.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Mar 2013, John Curran wrote:
>> 2) The new fee schedule provides for ISPs the ability to effectively
>>    get a corresponding IPv6 block for _no charge_, and this is one
>>    of the reasons that we don't have distinct fees for IPv4 and
>>    IPv6 but instead a size category which covers an amount of each.
> I must be missing something.  Once the pending fee schedule goes into place, my ISP colleagues who have a /22 of space or less will pay $500/year.  The moment that they ask for IPv6, under current policy and pending fee schedule, they will have to pay $1000/year.  How is that "no charge"?
> I would like to see what you have described implemented, which is why I submitted the policy proposal, but I don't see how it's no charge without the change.
> And yes, I am in contact with at least 2 very small service providers that this potentially effects.  At least one of them is poor enough that the $500/year difference DOES make a difference and must be considered when they decide if they are going to deploy IPv6.
But they are already paying $1,250/year now for their IPv4. Under the proposed structure, they could get a /36 and pay $250 less than they are paying now.

I am perplexed by your argument.


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