[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-3: Tiny IPv6 Allocations for ISPs

David Farmer farmer at umn.edu
Wed Mar 27 16:44:08 EDT 2013

On 3/27/13 15:29 , Antoine Beaupré wrote:
> On 2013-03-27, William Herrin wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:20 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2013-3
>>> Tiny IPv6 Allocations for ISPs
>>> Part 1 brings ARIN's allocation policies in line with the upcoming fee
>>> schedule so that it is possible to qualify as every level of ISP while
>>> holding IPv6 number resources.
>> This looks like a billing policy problem. The technical (i.e. number
>> policy) case for a smaller-than-/32 ISP allocation seems weak to me.
>> IMO, this problem could (and should!) be solved by billing
>> organizations with both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses only for the IPv4
>> addresses until IPv6 is prevalent enough to support its own costs.
>> ARIN's board is -supposed- to optimize billing policy for the sake of
>> technically sound number policy, not the other way around.
> I agree with this. A /48 is .. really small (in the IPv6). ADSL
> providers basically give this away to their customers here in
> Montreal...

A /48 is definitely to small but would would you think of a /40 for an 
xx-small and /36 for a x-small.  This requires a tweak in the fee 
schedule too.

> As an aside, am I correct in thinking that we currently need to pay only
> the higher of the IPv4 vs IPv6 fee when we have two allocations with
> arin?


> We are looking into enabling IPv6 here, but if it means extra annual
> fees, well that's a limit for adoption for us. We are currently using a
> /21 from ARIN, and would look at a /36 for IPv6.

With a /21 you are in the x-small category and /36 would be available to 
you  under current policy at the same cost as your /21, so no difference 
in your annual fee.

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