[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors
hannigan at gmail.com
Tue Jun 25 15:49:26 EDT 2013
This is just more re-arrangement of the deck chairs, but this one isn't
going to go away regardless of a lack of support. It already had that.
It would probably be more workable if it were written as such:
"Any organization requesting ARIN issued number resources or ASN's must
provide ARIN with evidence of a legally established presence in the ARIN
And this is already the case.
The use case for "majority" doesn't work. 2 of 3 is a majority. They're
really looking for "substantial presence" more than majority if its truly
an effort to weed out their definition of bad actors. There should be a
real concern with false positives with the proposed language. And yes, the
train left the station a decade ago re: use.
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 3:03 PM, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com>wrote:
> I am opposed to the overly vague "majority". I support organizations
> getting space needs for customers or infrastructure within the ARIN region
> from ARIN, regardless of where most of their operations are.
> There is some validity to the question of using those numbers for
> customers or infrastructure elsewhere, but I believe that that train left
> the station about a decade ago, and I think that attempting to cure it now
> for this reason is not appropriate.
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>> On Jun 25, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Eric Brunner-Williams <
>> ebw at abenaki.wabanaki.net> wrote:
>> > John,
>> > A request from an agency of government other than the original
>> > delegating agency may not take priority over the practice of the
>> > original delegating agency, continued through delegation to another
>> > entity.
>> It certainly can be considered as valid input, not withstanding any
>> prior relationship, when it is the policy of that government (USG
>> in this case) to participate in ARIN's policy development process -
>> "The USG participates in the development of and is supportive
>> of the policies, processes, and procedures agreed upon by the
>> Internet technical community through ARIN."
>> "United States Government’s Internet Protocol Numbering Principles"
>> Please evaluate the proposed policy change on the basis of the arguments
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
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