[arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4NeedpostARINrun-out(was:Re:Against2013-4)

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Wed Jun 19 13:02:34 EDT 2013

On Jun 19, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com<mailto:mike at iptrading.com>> wrote:

The community has loudly and recently spoken about which goal of RFC-2050 is universally accepted.
That goal is registration. If you want to continue to maintain the fallacy that the entities which are actually routing and using the addresses as their own, after legally purchasing those rights, are not the ones who should be listed in the Whois registry, then you are standing the goal of registration on its head by simply defining all the entries as accurate, in the same way the authorities responded to Galileo (“and yet it moves”), by asserting the primacy of words over reality.

Mike -

   You may say "legally purchasing" rights, but I truly don't know what these parties think
   they purchased, since it can't be the ability to inject routes and have them accepted
   (no one can provide that) nor the right to use the entry in the registry, when the
   circumstances are contrary to policy.

   This is not new concept; e.g. you can buy a radio station broadcast license from an
   existing operator, but it's not actually a sale until it passes regulatory approvals to be
   reassigned to you.  Until that time, your purchase is without any actual substance.


John Curran
President and CEO

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