[arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARINrun-out(was:Re:Against2013-4)

William Herrin bill at herrin.us
Wed Jun 19 09:25:20 EDT 2013

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Mike Burns <mike at nationwideinc.com> wrote:
>> 1. It has been argued that the larger ISPs have the prior advantage of
>> holding highly valuable alienable assets which they received for free, which
>> provide them with a competitive advantage over less endowed entities seeking
>> to purchase addresses at a much higher relative price.
> Yes, it has been argued. It hasn't necessarily been substantiated, nor has
> anyone raising said argument provided any real evidence to support it.

Of course the incumbent's assets offer a competitive advantage over
the challenger. With such a prima facie case, the burden rests on who
disagree to disprove it.

What's less obvious is:

1. Is this unreasonable?

2. How do ARIN's policies interact with this otherwise natural state
of affairs? Favorable/neutral/disfavorable to the

3. Is that unreasonable?

>> Remember the cap on needs-free transfers is designed to free up the market
>> to incentivize more transactions, each of which presumably entails the move
>> of addresses from lower-use states to higher-use states, while providing
>> some protection for market manipulations.

I think I would cautiously favor an experiment in this realm:

* Limit needs-free transfers to receiving one transfer of /20 or less
per year per organization,

* Keep the needs analysis for free pool assignments with a presumption
that a quick transfer out indicates fraud in the original

* Include a strong publication requirement. Originator and recipient
to be explicitly and publicly called out by ARIN with full details so
that anyone can monitor the status of the experiment.

* We don't consider expansion from /20 until at least 200 such
transfers go through so that we can work with real data when
predicting the efficacy of an expanded policy.

Bill Herrin

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