[arin-ppml] ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles / Request for General Thoughts

William Herrin bill at herrin.us
Mon Jun 17 01:02:00 EDT 2013

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 1:14 AM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Chris Grundemann
> <cgrundemann at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Providing false information and flooding
> That's twice now you've accused me of lying. Let's put that to the test.
> Here's my data: http://bill.herrin.us/network/principles.html
> I respectfully request that anyone who believes I have misrecorded
> their response let me know so that I may correct it.


Four days and no requested corrections later... I'll forgo your
apology for the false accusation but now that we've confirmed that I
accurately counted the 20 folks who chose to respond publicly to your
query, let me help you understand what they told you.

The first thing they told you is that 2013-4's principle 3 (unique
assignment through accurate registration) has unanimous support. There
were quibbles about the words and requests for wordsmithing but the
core principle described is golden.

The second thing the respondents told you is that points 1 and 2 in
2013-4 have large, majority opposition. Not just in the future. Right
now. Today. Nor are folks displeased with the particular wording...
those particular principles are simply unacceptable. Not just as
written, as conceived. If they were ever OK, they aren't any more.

But there is good news.

An overwhelming majority believe that ARIN should, on principle,
architect its policies and procedures to support scalable routing
efforts on the Internet backbone. Only 2 of the 20 respondents opposed
this. They don't agree that necessarily means hierarchy, but on a
policy by policy basis they can accept hierarchy where it is
technically necessary to meet ARIN's commitment to a principle of
support for scalable Internet routing. The core principle that just
about everyone can support is: facilitate scalable Internet routing.

More, while there's strong dissent over whether justified need, free
market, or some mechanism we've not yet conceived represents ARIN's
future, there is strong agreement that the future must support
sustainable consumption of the number resources throughout the
lifetime of the protocols which use them. Only one person said burn it
all down: hurry up and allocate the rest of the v4 free pool so that
folks will be forced to move to IPv6. How we make sustainable policy
will be this decade's recurring debate (whether you like it or not)
but we broadly agree that consumption must be sustainable.

Finally, there was more confusion than anything else on 2013-4's point
4 about stewardship. The text is no good, but if you rework it you
might have a viable principle there as well.

Congratulations. It appears to me that you have a basis for building a
true consensus statement of principles. Not just for now, or
historically, but for the future. This surprises the heck out of me. I
thought Jason was dead on target when he said that would be near
impossible to achieve.

What will you do with this knowledge now that you have it?

Bill "don't deny it" Herrin

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