[arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARIN run-out (was:Re:Against 2013-4)

Brian Jones bjones at vt.edu
Wed Jun 12 14:54:27 EDT 2013


Maybe that was utopian thinking on my part. It would be nice to disregard
what happens with IPv4 space but that seems to invite some sort of chaos
and the last thing needed is more chaos...

Intelligent allocation of the remaining IPv4 space is important in my
opinion.

>From Dave Farmer's email earlier:
"I think the more important issue is an appropriate criteria on the
lower-end and for new enterants, the current slow-start for IPv4 isn't
going to work, post-ARIN free pool.  Yes, I know eliminating need
alltogether eliminates that problem, but I'm not sure I can get myself all
the way there.  I'd like to see some minimal technical criteria that
entitles someone to be able to buy up to between a /16 and a /12 and more
than just that they have the money to do so.  Maybe its just as simple as
demonstrating efficient use of at least a /24.  If you can't do that then
you can only buy a /24, then you utilize it and you qualify for bigger
blocks. "

Regardless of whether the size blocks discussed is agreeable or not, I do
agree wth the part about the need for "...minimal technical criteria that
entitles someone to be able to buy up to between a /16 and a /12 and more
than just that they have the money to do so."

(Of course I support the idea that we all move to IPv6!) :)

--
Brian


On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Mike Burns <mike at nationwideinc.com> wrote:

>   Hi Brian, Matthew, and Martin,
>
> Can I take your plus ones to indicate support of the cap even in the face
> of the shell company issue?
> (As well as support of the idea that we should all move to IPv6.)
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
>
>  *From:* Brian Jones <bjones at vt.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:03 AM
> *To:* arin-ppml at arin.net
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] A Redefinition of IPv4 Need post ARIN run-out
> (was:Re:Against 2013-4)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>   On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:24 PM, cb.list6 <cb.list6 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 11, 2013 7:15 PM, "Matthew Kaufman" <matthew at matthew.at> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > When will we start caring about IPv6 and start ignoring IPv4??? Who
>>> cares if people set up shells to acquire v4 space from others? Let 'em, and
>>> get v6 deployed already.
>>> >
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> -M
>>
>>
>>
>
> +1
>
> --
> Brian
>
>
>
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