[arin-ppml] ARIN-2013-4: RIR Principles / Request for General Thoughts

Bill Darte billdarte at gmail.com
Fri Jun 7 12:28:06 EDT 2013


William Herrin via<http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=1311182>
 arin.net
10:47 AM (36 minutes ago)


to Chris, arin-ppml
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com>
wrote:
> 1) Do you support the principle of efficient utilization based on need
> (Conservation/Sustainability)?

No. I support the practice but not the principle. Use of the concept
of justified need should be pragmatic not dogmatic. Where another
practice can be shown to be more effective at achieving
sustainability, no guiding principles should dissuade us from using
it.

Bill....We've seen the effectiveness with ARIN's practice since '97, but
what other practice do you advocate that has demonstrable success with IP
addresses?

bd


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:47 AM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > 1) Do you support the principle of efficient utilization based on need
> > (Conservation/Sustainability)?
>
> No. I support the practice but not the principle. Use of the concept
> of justified need should be pragmatic not dogmatic. Where another
> practice can be shown to be more effective at achieving
> sustainability, no guiding principles should dissuade us from using
> it.
>
>
> > 2) Do you support the principle of hierarchical aggregation
> (Routability)?
>
> No. I support facilitating scalable routing as a principle. Depending
> on the technology of the day and the intended use of the addresses,
> this might or might not include aggregation of any sort, let alone
> hierarchical aggregation.
>
>
> > 3) Do you support the principle of uniqueness (Registration)?
>
> Yes.
>
>
> > 4) Do you support the goal of balancing these principles with each
> > other under the overarching principle of Stewardship?
>
> No. As offered, the notion of stewardship is fuzzy bordering
> incoherent. It justifies anything and nothing. If it's desirable to
> offer guidance as to how to break a tie when principles conflict then
> let's do just that instead.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
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