[arin-ppml] Against 2013-4

McTim dogwallah at gmail.com
Wed Jun 5 12:12:32 EDT 2013

On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> I for one am a supporter of the needs basis.  As I have said before, if we
>> eliminate the needs basis then I want to be first in line to request everything
>> that is left.  I am sure there will be quite a queue.
> This comment is an example of the strange illogic that somehow permeates this debate.
> Eliminating needs basis AFTER there is no free pool doesn't mean that you get to request "everything that is left." There is nothing left to request.
> On the other hand, if a free pool still exists, keeping needs basis as a criterion could actually mean that one person, whoever is first in line, could request "everything that is left" if they could document need for it - even if 37 other organizations had the same need.

In theory, this has always been the case, not a compelling reason to
ditch decades of stewardship practice IMHO.

> Kevin's comments, in other words, seem to support exactly the opposite of the position he is upholding.
>> My perception is that the ARIN community is strongly biased to support
>> needs basis and there is a very vocal minority trying to eliminate it so that
>> they can create a market they can profit by.  I don't read the opposition to
> The public interest case for eliminating needs basis is very clear. (I am an academic, by the way, not in any way connected to the brokerage or secondary market.)
> The feeling is that bureaucratic needs assessments introduce significant friction into the transfer process, making it more difficult for addresses to shift from people with a surplus to people who actually need them.

but if they need them, it's not hard to show that need!  As someone
who has been both the requester and the bureaucrat, I would
characterize the "friction" as insignificant.

> It is the current system that is characterized by hoarding, not a freer market.

Have you any evidence for this?


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