[arin-ppml] Against 2013-4

Blake Dunlap ikiris at gmail.com
Tue Jun 4 11:25:34 EDT 2013


Now legitimately, I don't think some or maybe even most of the advocates of
dropping needs basis are in it for personal gain. There are at least a few
if not a lot of them that genuinely believe that some version of a "free"
market is the best solution to directing goods to those who should have
them. Let's not marginalize them with accusations of self profit
motivation, it needlessly creates animosity and an us vs them attitude.

-Blake


On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Kevin Kargel <kkargel at polartel.com> wrote:

> I for one am a supporter of the needs basis.  As I have said before, if we
> eliminate the needs basis then I want to be first in line to request
> everything that is left.  I am sure there will be quite a queue.
>
> My perception is that the ARIN community is strongly biased to support
> needs basis and there is a very vocal minority trying to eliminate it so
> that they can create a market they can profit by.  I don't read the
> opposition to needs basis as having anything to do with the good of the
> community, though there have been many mutations of the spin on it to try
> and advertise it that way.
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Owen DeLong
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 10:17 PM
> To: Steven Ryerse
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Against 2013-4
>
>
> On Jun 3, 2013, at 12:37 , Steven Ryerse <SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I take issue with the assumption that "this community" is strongly for
> needs based assignments.  Certainly there are folks in this community who
> frequently and sometimes loudly voice their support for needs based
> assignment policies.  Then of course there are folks in this community like
> me who are vehemently against needs based assignments and I certainly have
> voiced that frequently and sometimes loudly.  There have been others who
> have done so as well from time to time.
>
> It is not an assumption. It is reflected in the numbers each time this
> question has been raised in a public policy meeting throughout ARIN's
> history.
>
> Owen
>
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