[arin-ppml] Against 2013-4

William Herrin bill at herrin.us
Mon Jun 3 16:45:19 EDT 2013

On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Jason Schiller <jschiller at google.com> wrote:
> What we need at this point is a high level discussion, about the general
> direction.

Hi Jason,


> I'm not sure a discussion of merits of needs based allocation / assignment
> is useful at this point in the discussion.
> Neither is it helpful to discuss alternate flavors of
> conservation at this time.

Disagree. We have to decide whether these are core on ancillary. As
written they're a part of the high-level principles. I don't think
they belong there.

> I made a conscious effort minimize modernizing the policy and believe I
> did so only where the language we use has clarified the principle and is
> consistent with current ARIN policy and operations.
> The thought here
> was to not change the status quo, and simply document what is the
> already agreed upon basis of the current state of things.

That's exactly the problem. If we don't want to change the status quo
then we can't start from RFC 2050 because we've moved way beyond it
and are on the precipice of moving far further.

> Should ARIN policy and operations be changed to match the principle?
> (Did we make a wrong term and abandon a principle we should not have?)

In time. The principles should apply to new policy as we find it
needful to write.

> Should the principle be modified to make holes for the ARIN practice?
> (The principle is true, but it doesn't apply here due to this history)

If we get the principles right then there shouldn't be any holes that
we actively want to preserve. The presence of a hole highlights an
error in the proposed principles.

Take Legacy Registrants for example. Are they a hole in the
principles? Or is the principle missing or miswritten? Why isn't the
principle, "We leave the early adoption registrations alone until they

Bill Herrin

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