[arin-ppml] IANA advice re: Post Exhaustion IPv4 Allocation

Bill Darte billdarte at gmail.com
Thu Dec 5 13:45:12 EST 2013


I concur with David's thinking on this...
bd


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:33 PM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:

> Jason,
>
> I agree with the general intent of what you have written below. However, I
> believe the "may begin" was used to allow IANA and the RIRs some
> flexibility to do the "right thing" based on the circumstances at the time
> when one of the RIRs drops below /9.
>
> One situation where it might be the right thing to wait, is if one of the
> RIRs drops below /9 just before one of the prescribed dates (March 1, or
> September 1), like within a month or less.  In this circumstance, I think
> it would be best to just wait for the next prescribed date, rather than
> make the initial disbursement and then make a scheduled disbursement less
> than a month later.
>
> Where as, if one of the prescribed dates has just past, then it makes no
> sense to wait the nearly 6 months for the next prescribed date.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 12/4/13, 07:37 , Jason Schiller wrote:
>
>> It seems fairly clear to me that that the policy instructs IANA to make
>> the first allocation immediately upon one RIR dropping below a /9
>> inventory, and there after must wait until the next 6-month window opens
>> up for subsequent allocations.
>>
>> The window serves to allow IANA to collect IPs in its Recovered IPv4
>> Pool, and then have fixed point in time when the amount of IPs is
>> totaled and divided.  At the time the first RIR drops below a /9, IANA
>> will have already had sufficient time to collect IPs.
>>
>> It also seems obvious to me that, there is a fair bit of complexity in
>> describing this behavior and if the authors desired IANA to wait for the
>> next 6-month window to open, then this policy text would have been much
>> shorter.
>>
>> If you think this policy suggests the IANA should wait for the next
>> 6-month window to open, please speak up.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> __Jason
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jason Schiller <jschiller at google.com
>> <mailto:jschiller at google.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     I wanted to advise the community, and seek its input on the question
>>     of when IANA should make its first allocation from the Recovered
>>     IPv4 Pool.
>>
>>     It seems some read the global policy and conclude that the Recovered
>>     IPv4 Pool becomes active immediately after one RIR dipping below a
>>     /9 of inventory and IANA should straight away
>>     make an allocation and then make its next allocation after crossing
>>     the next 6-month period starting on March 1st or September 1st.
>>
>>     It seems some read the global policy and conclude that the IANA
>>     should make its first allocation from the after crossing the next
>>     6-month period starting on March 1st or September 1st after one RIR
>>     dipping below a /9 of inventory.
>>
>>     In short should IANA make an allocation after one RIR dipping below
>>     a /9 of inventory or should it wait until the next 6-month period
>>     opens up?
>>
>>     Below is the email we have received regarding this question:
>>
>>      Dear Louie,
>>>
>>>     As you chair the ASO AC, I am seeking your guidance on the
>>>     interpretation of the Global Policy for Post Exhaustion IPv4
>>>     Allocation
>>>     Mechanisms by the IANA, which was ratified in May 2012.
>>>
>>>     The global policy defines states that "Allocations from the IANA may
>>>     begin once the pool is declared active." It is not clear whether this
>>>     means that allocation from the Recovered IPv4 Pool should be made
>>>     straight away or whether they should happen at the start of the next
>>>     "IPv4 allocation period," the "6-month period following 1 March or 1
>>>     September."
>>>
>>>     We hope you can advise us on the intended meaning of this sentence,
>>> so
>>>     that we can implement the policy appropriately.
>>>
>>>     We look forward to receiving your response on this question of
>>>     interpretation of the Global Policy for Post Exhaustion IPv4
>>>     Allocation
>>>     Mechanisms by the IANA.
>>>
>>>     Kind regards,
>>>
>>>     Leo Vegoda
>>>     ICANN
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     --
>>     _______________________________________________________
>>     Jason Schiller|NetOps|jschiller at google.com
>>     <mailto:jschiller at google.com>|571-266-0006 <tel:571-266-0006>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> _______________________________________________________
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>> <mailto:jschiller at google.com>|571-266-0006
>>
>>
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