[arin-ppml] Clean up definition of LIR/ISP vs. end-user

Scott Leibrand scottleibrand at gmail.com
Tue Apr 30 15:15:39 EDT 2013

I think my language makes it clear that LIR == ISP, and defines both.

The more important question, IMO, is how to define and differentiate
LIRs/ISPs vs. End-user orgs, so that ARIN staff can apply policy
consistently, and in a way that matches the community's intent.

Do you think this accomplishes that?  Any other thoughts or suggestions
before I submit it as a policy proposal?

*2.4. Local Internet Registry (LIR) / Internet Service Provider (ISP)*

The terms Internet Service Provider (ISP) and LIR are used interchangeably
in this document.  A Local Internet Registry (LIR) is an IR that assigns
address space to the users of the network services that it provides.
Therefore, LIRs / ISPs are organizations that reassign addresses to end
users and/or reallocate addresses to other ISPs/LIRs.
2.6. End-user

An end-user is an organization receiving assignments of IP addresses
exclusively for use in its operational networks, and does not register any
reassignments of that space.



On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster at gmail.com
> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:17 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> ...
> > Easy enough to accomplish, if folks believe that the end result will be
> more
> > clear than present approach.
> Using one term (LIR) everywhere has an advantage in reading of
> the NRPM (although I would assert few do (present company are
> the exception, of course), and fewer still can actually figure out
> all the nuances (or maybe I am projecting my own limits when
> reading the NRPM :-)).  But, so that those that think of themselves
> as ISPs know how they are being referred to as, the 2.4 reference
> should probably be enhanced with something like:
> .. 2.4 Local Internet Registry [LIR] / ISPs
> ..... For consistency ... the document uses the term LIR.
> As an editorial only change (since 6.5.1 explicitly states that
> LIR == ISP), this should not be especially controversial.  On
> the other hand, I do not consider this important enough to
> invest a lot of resources into.
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