[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-3: Tiny IPv6 Allocations for ISPs

Aaron Dudek adudek16 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 8 11:15:06 EDT 2013


Because IPv4 is disappearing.
At some point in the near future it will cost more to do IPv4, specifically
to acquire addresses, then IPv6.

Nice reference to 1989. Where did that get us now?


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Michael Richardson <mcr at sandelman.ca> wrote:

>
> >>>>> "Steven" == Steven Noble <snoble at sonn.com> writes:
>     Steven> That is exactly my point, if ARIN says that someone
>     Steven> requesting IPv6 will not have higher fees, then how does
>     Steven> that work with a legacy holder?  Do we want people to adopt
>     Steven> IPv6 or not?  A policy that makes it the same cost to
>     Steven> request and hold IPv4 and IPv6 works both ways.  If I am
>     Steven> charged the same as someone who has both IPv4 and IPv6
>     Steven> resources, why would I not request IPv4 resources too?
>
> +1
>
> And, given that I can get IPv4 for the same price, why go to the hassle
> of doing anything with IPv6?   The business case for doing new things
> with IPv6 should include "and the address space is essentially free,so
> we wilkl do the network architecture correctly, rather than creating a
> hack that supported IPv4 NAT/bridging"
>
> Do you know how many layer-2 **hack** have been created because IPv4
> subnets are a fixed quantity?  (particularly in the pre-CIDR days)
>
> IPv6 allocations and especially end-user assignments, need to be
> essentially free.  In the IPv4 time scale, this is 1989, when
> enterprises just came to the table for address space, with *no
> intention* of advertising that space.
>
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