[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-2: 3GPP Network IP Resource Policy
Andrew Dul
andrew.dul at quark.net
Sat Apr 6 14:51:00 EDT 2013
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On 3/27/2013 11:32 AM, Scott Leibrand wrote:
> As one of the AC shepherds for the policy, I am hoping to have a
> discussion, both here on PPML at at the upcoming ARIN meeting, to
> cover a few key points:
>
> - Is the problem statement clear to the community? Do you have any
> questions on the problem the proposal is attempting to solve?
My read of the problem is that wireless operators have been using space
beyond RFC 1918 (such as 1.0.0.0/8) to solve their addressing needs and
now that this is becoming part of the "Internet" they need to move off
of that space.
>
> - Do you feel that it is an important problem to try to solve? Do
> you have any reasons you can share that we should or shouldn't do so?
>
With ARIN's /8 inventory currently at approximately 2.5, I'm skeptical
that any policy using global IPv4 unicast space can actually solve this
problem. Even if we were to give a whole /8 to this problem, I'm
doubtful that is enough address space to solve this problem.
Class E space is available...and so is IPv6 :)
One could also use 100.64.0.0/10
> - If so, how would you prefer we approach solving it? Some
> suggestions are outlined in the proposal below, but we'll need to
> decide on an approach and write and discuss actual policy text in
> order to move this Draft Policy forward. This proposal will *not* be
> eligible for last call after ARIN 31 in Barbados, but we will be
> discussing it there.
>
> So if you have any input now, please speak up. We'll be locking down
> the version of the Draft Policy that will be printed in the ARIN 31
> discussion guides by April 5th, so please provide any input you can
> before then.
I currently don't see any "policy text" as we've normally come to
expect. I'm certainly open to a discussion, but at this point we seem
to be discussing concepts and a method to work the problem rather than
specifically policy to solve the problem. It would be good to have some
strawman text to discuss rather than just the concepts.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:20 AM, ARIN <info at arin.net
> <mailto:info at arin.net>> wrote:
>
> Draft Policy ARIN-2013-2
> 3GPP Network IP Resource Policy
>
> On 21 March 2013 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted
> "ARIN-prop-184 3GPP Network IP Resource Policy" as a Draft Policy.
>
> Draft Policy ARIN-2013-2 is below and can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2013_2.html
>
> You are encouraged to discuss the merits and your concerns of
> Draft Policy 2013-2 on the Public Policy Mailing List. 2013-2 will
> also be on the agenda at the upcoming ARIN Public Policy Meeting
> in Barbados. The AC will evaluate the discussion in order to
> assess the conformance of this draft policy with ARIN's Principles
> of Internet Number Resource Policy as stated in the PDP.
> Specifically, these principles are:
>
> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> * Technically Sound
> * Supported by the Community
>
> The ARIN Policy Development Process (PDP) can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>
> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Communications and Member Services
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
> ## * ##
>
>
> Draft Policy ARIN-2013-2
> 3GPP Network IP Resource Policy
>
> Date: 27 March 2013
>
> Problem Statement:
>
> Current 3GPP architectures consist of hierarchical aggregation,
> from cell site up to anchor nodes, approximately one per NFL city.
> Anchor nodes are the point where IP addresses are assigned and
> topologically positioned in the network. Generally an anchor node
> must be provisioned with enough addresses to handle all
> simultaneously attached users, plus enough headroom to handle
> failover from an adjacent anchor node in the event of an outage.
> Capacity planning generally ensures that all anchor nodes have
> approximately the same number of attached users at steady state.
> Moving addresses between anchor nodes would require significant
> renumbering effort and substantial increases in operational
> complexity, so cannot be performed during an outage. Generally
> addresses are not renumbered between anchor nodes: instead,
> aggregation nodes can be rehomed as needed to balance steady state
> capacity levels. Because of the 3GPP architecture's failover and
> capacity planning requirements, all cellular networks target
> approximately 50% simultaneous usage of each anchor node's IP
> addresses. However, even at 50% usage, the total number of
> subscribers generally exceeds the number of addresses needed.
>
> Currently, a number of mobile networks are using non-RIR-assigned
> space internally to meet customer demand. However, there is
> insufficient private space (RFC1918, etc.) available for internal
> use, so other unassigned space is currently being used. As this
> unassigned space is brought into service via reclamation, returns,
> and transfers, it is no longer possible to use it internally, so
> globally unique space must be used instead. As a result, most of
> the need for additional RIR-assigned space is to serve existing
> customers, not to accommodate future growth.
>
> Policy statement:
>
> I can see two possible approaches to address this need. One
> approach would be to continue counting simultaneously attached
> users to measure IP needs, and apply a 50% usage requirement to
> justify allocations. Another approach would be to instead count
> total subscribers (rather than simultaneously attached users), and
> apply a much higher threshold, such as 80% or even 90%, to justify
> allocations.
>
> Timetable for implementation: ASAP
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