[arin-ppml] fee structure

Christoph Blecker cblecker at gmail.com
Mon Apr 1 13:43:31 EDT 2013


On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:54 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Mar 31, 2013 7:11 AM, "John Curran" <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
> > On Mar 31, 2013, at 4:20 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> > >> No, it is not a "speed bump" but simply a choice available to
> end-users;
> > >> having an equal voice includes taking on some equal responsibility.
> > >
> > > In that case, shouldn't we get $100 off of our membership for each
> resource
> > > record subject to the $100 fee?
> >
> > The revised fee schedule did not change the ARIN membership fee,
> > but as a result of this topic being discussed on ppml and as noted
> > earlier, I will bring up this topic (of the most appropriate fee
> > for membership) to the ARIN Board for their consideration.
>
> Hi John,
>
> When you do, I second Owen's notion that the end user membership fee
> should not exceed the difference between that end user's annual fees and
> the minimum annual fee for an ISP member.
>
> I'm not wed to the idea that an ISP paying a total of $500/year should
> automatically be an ARIN member. But if they are, an end-user paying a
> total of $500/year should be too.
>
> -Bill
>
>
Thoughts: If the $500/year membership fee to end users is to offset the
costs of governing ARIN and ensuring that the electorate is interested in
participating, why isn't this extra membership fee charged to ISPs? Why
would ISPs be assumed to be more or less interested then end users? Are
there any statistics available on how many ISPs actually exercise their
vote? Is the difference in treatment simply because ISPs already pay so
much, why charge them more?

I support a review of the $500/year fee structure. I believe that whatever
the direction taken (offset by fees, or what have you), that the voting
playing field should be equal between all users of ARIN resources.

Cheers,
Christoph
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