[arin-ppml] Incorrect POC on resource records

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Wed Sep 26 20:35:10 EDT 2012

(one cannot prove or verify that one actually owns anything at all?)

The fact the author is claiming this is a problem basically supports
my assertion that the society believes it has the right to know the 
names of the property owners.  The first step in proving ownership of 
anything is stating who the heck you are.

As for the book I'm sure it's a fascinating read, but I would dispute 
the characterization of

"...One of the reasons it was so wild was that those pioneers, most of 
them nothing but squatters, "insisted that their labor, not formal paper 
titles or arbitrary boundary lines, gave land value and established 

If you read the actual personal diaries of people like Laura Ingalls
Wilder (not her little house fiction, but the reality it was based on)
most settlers of the US Old West were extremely cognizant of property
rights.  The org that actually had the biggest difficulty with them
was our very own US Congress as it repeatedly would issue grants under
the Homestead Act and then make Indian treaties that would take those
grants away (from the settlers) that it had previously issued.

I would guess also that land ownership issues like mineral rights are
even a worse problem in the Third World than the actual squatting


On 9/26/2012 4:15 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> In message <50632E39.8010709 at ipinc.net>,
> Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:
>> ...
>> Because of this, humanity in virtually all societies thus supports the
>> notion that society has a right to know the names of the current
>> property owners of that property.
> I have no personal opinion on the various issues being discussed in this
> thread, however I can't help but interject that the phrase "...virtually all
> societies..." in the forgoing may perhaps be more than a little inaccurate,
> and that in fact the majority of humankind may, it seems, still be living
> largely in the absence of what we in the West think of as normal or traditional
> property ownership and/or rights.  (In fact, some have identified the lack
> thereof as an extremely serious, if not perhaps even the most serious global
> problem.  I mean think about it... How rich can one possibly be if one lives
> in a society where one cannot prove or verify that one actually owns anything
> at all?)
>     http://www.theglobalist.com/StoryId.aspx?StoryId=2023
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