[arin-ppml] Incorrect POC on resource records

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Wed Sep 26 12:32:57 EDT 2012

On 9/26/2012 8:41 AM, John Curran wrote:
> On Sep 26, 2012, at 5:27 PM, Steven Noble <snoble at sonn.com> wrote:
>> If you are referring to the ARIN NRPM, that would not be valid against a legacy ORG that has not interacted with ARIN or signed a (L)RSA.
> Steven -
> The Number Resource Policy Manual (NRPM) applies to all number resources
> in the ARIN region, regardless of the point in time when the number
> resources were issued.

Let me just point something out here.

The purpose of the WHOIS database is that IP numbers are public 
resources, an org is just "borrowing" the use of them for a time.

Just like property ownership.  Orgs come and go but property is
forever.  Even locations you would consider immovable - Vatican City
for example - well, there were owners of the property that the
Vatican is sitting on long, long before the Vatican was built,
and there will undoubtedly come a day that the Vatican ends up
a ruin like the Roman Colosseum, and there will be property owners
then who will be doing something different with the land.

Because of this, humanity in virtually all societies thus supports the 
notion that society has a right to know the names of the current 
property owners of that property.

Ip addressing works the same way - the community thus supports the
notion that the rest of the Internet has a right to know who is
assigned a particular IP number in any given point in time.

The whole concept that Legacy owners do not have a duty and 
responsibility to maintain correct and valid POCs on IP numbering
flies in the face of the overall support the Internet has for
knowing who is assigned numbers.

In the past, ARIN could sidestep this issue by telling people "well,
we are gonna force them to keep their record current because if they
don't, and they want more IP numbers, they won't get them until they
clean up their records"

This had a giant glaring flaw in that not all orgs are under unlimited
growth and will ever need more resources - a flaw I and others pointed
out with regularity - but it sufficed for most people, so we were ignored.

But now, since there are no more IPv4 numbers to give out, ARIN can
no longer punt this issue down the field.

We have orgs using IPv4 resources who are effectively unknown because
they don't have to pay a bill every year, and because they have either
deliberately or accidentally allowed their contact info on those 
resources to go stale.

It is unfair that 98% of users of IPv4 are contractually obligated to
maintain contactable information on their IP addressing use, and 2%
of them - the legacies - seem to assume they have some sort of right
to not do this.  It was always unfair but the community didn't want to
face the issue, and allowed ARIN to kick the can down the road.

Well, now the community wants more IPv4 - even though there is none left 
- and the legacies who appear to have abandoned their IPv4
resources by deliberately or inadvertently not maintaining valid
contact info, are being regarded by many as "fair game"

I am very satisfied with this.  Why aren't you?


> ARIN provides basic registration services to legacy address holders
> including allowing updates to the registration information in Whois.
> These services are provided subject to the NRPM, although legacy
> address holders may enter into an LRSA if would prefer to have a
> defined contractual relationship with ARIN for these services.
> Thanks!
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
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