[arin-ppml] Regarding unauthorized changes (Re: Policy question)

Jimmy Hess mysidia at gmail.com
Sat Sep 22 17:12:38 EDT 2012

On 9/22/12, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at ipinc.net> wrote:
> Wrong.  You do not "own" the network.
> What you fail to understand is that ARIN doesn't even "own" the IP
> network.  Nobody "owns" the network.

Networks that communicate using the IP protocol DO have owners.

Nobody "owns" the IP addresses that are assigned to networks, but
there are standards by which networks are assigned addressing; someone
owns the equipment, hosts, and services their network provides;  an
assignment of number resources alone does not make a network.

Anyways, Jeffrey Lyon's  circumstances are obviously more complicated
than he has let on in explaining to PPML,  otherwise, it seems clear
ARIN would have handled the situation.     It  wouldn't be fair for
the community to have an opinion on his circumstances,
without a complete explanation  of the situation that both adversarial
parties could agree is complete -- and we hear only one side.

Nothing conclusive or reliable has been shown, IMO, to indicate ARIN's
response is unreasonable, or that they are creating an unnecessary

Obviously, some disputes will have to be resolved by the courts, or
settlements that both parties agreed to through arbitration, or
whatever other means,  and ARIN is best served by not passing
judgement, especially when there are complicated situations, that
there isn't a response ARIN can rely on 100% as being correct under
current policy...


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