[arin-ppml] Regarding unauthorized changes (Re: Policy question)

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Sat Sep 22 16:32:10 EDT 2012

On 9/22/2012 12:58 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
> On 9/22/12, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>> Jeffrey -
>>    It is possible that ARIN could reclaim an address block which is
>>    apparently unused by the registered address holder, but to do so
> Doesn't the RSA say ARIN will not revoke solely for lack of use....?
> I don't see that it matters if the contact is responsive or not in that case.

The RSA states the org must define a POC.  A bogus POC doesn't meet the
definition of a POC.  The policy manual also states that nonresponsive
POCs can be defined as such by ARIN and they have a procedure to do this 
and are in fact doing it.  That of course, affects the orgs ability to 
obtain additional IP numbering even if that is obtained via transfer.

So yes, it does matter.  As a practical matter of course, for a regular
RSA the assigned org must respond annually to pay the bill.  if they do
not, the RSA is broken and the resources are then released.

> Now I could see "non-use AND fraudulent application", as a reason to
> revoke, that would be provided by current policy --  if an applicant
> for new address space misrepresented themself as identity of the
> End-user organization that operates the network that address space is
> being applied for  (with the intent that they could "take away
> addresses"; if the person responsible for applying were fired as a
> contracter or consultant for the principal that owns the network).
> In other words, they want to act as an LIR, but submitted an End-user
> assignment request,
> using false organization name.
> ARIN /could/  revoke in that case,  but are you sure you would want that?
> There's no policy that allows revoked resources to be forcibly
> assigned to the new user of those resources.
> Nor is there a way for the user to /apply/  for resources they are
> using, but are not assigned to anyone due to revokation from the
> previous registrant who wasn't
> actually using them.  Perhaps there should be  a procedure to request a specific
> IP block in an application, from ARIN....
> With a stipulation, that exact block and size was previously an allocated block,
> or ARIN provides a "list"  of blocks available for such requests,
> based  on the prefix sizes that are allocated from certain blocks.
> E.g. Certain IP ranges would only be available for request from  /20
> applicants,
> certain IP ranges would only be available for requests from /22
> applicants, etc,
> as  needed to ensure that requests don't result in an introduction of
> inefficiency.

the ARIN hostmaster is able to help in these situations without the need 
for formalizing it in policy, and has done so in the past.


>> Thanks!
>> /John
> --
> -JH
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