[arin-ppml] Regarding unauthorized changes (Re: Policy question)

George Herbert george.herbert at gmail.com
Fri Sep 21 00:51:52 EDT 2012

Jeffrey -

It is unconscionable for you to ask a registrar to solve your legal problem.

Your acquisition process was clearly flawed somehow.  Paying for title to whatever without operational control was a mistake.  ARIN can't help you by fixing whatever went wrong there by adjudicating what's fundamentally a civil tort ( slander of title probably, but I am not a lawyer ).

It's not their job, it's your job.

I feel sorry for you under the circumstances, but again, this is what attorneys are for and not what ARIN is for.

George William Herbert
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On Sep 20, 2012, at 9:27 PM, Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:25 AM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>> On Sep 21, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net>
>> wrote:
>>> The original registrant in this case does not operate a network and
>>> has no authority to maintain or route space according to ARIN's own
>>> policies. It is unconscionable that I be expected to prove this in a
>>> court.
>> Jeffrey -
>>  There could easily be organizations holding resources that have today
>>  no network and no customers; that does not provide one with the ability
>>  to transfer their number resources without their consent (nor is it a
>>  germane question for a court of law.)
>>  Whether such a party transferred its rights via agreement to you is
>>  germane, but requires a legal adjudication of contractual dispute
>>  (and is not ARIN's job.)
>> FYI,
>> /John
>> John Curran
>> President and CEO
> John,
> This is the nature of my complaint. It needs to be ARIN's job. We
> should not pawn our responsibilities off onto the courts.
> -- 
> Jeffrey A. Lyon, CISSP
> President, Black Lotus Communications
> mobile: (757) 304-0668 | gtalk: jeffrey.lyon at gmail.com | skype: blacklotus.net
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