[arin-ppml] Incorrect POC on resource records

[John Curran]

On Sep 26, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Steven Noble <snoble at sonn.com> wrote:

> Then that does not explain why ARIN would purposely change a post-ARIN ORG POC to No, Contact Known if they are getting paid, which I can personally attest they have done at least once.

Steve - 
 
  We don't change contacts during the POS validation, we simply 
  mark them invalid.  We remove POCs and replace them with the 
  "No Contact Known" when they ask to be removed or we have factual
  data (e.g. deceased) that the contact is no longer associated with
  the organization.

  If you known of a case otherwise, please bring it to my attention.

> So marking a ORG invalid requires that ARIN put an invalid POC in the record and then force the owner to go through hoops to get the ORG restored?  That makes no sense.  Can you give me the part of the NRPM that you are quoting?

  A non-responsive POC is simply marked invalid as required by NRPM 3.6.  
  It is true that an invalid POC cannot make changes to a resource, so 
  if you are unresponsive and there are no other valid POCs on the record,
  you could be in a situation where you have to subsequently recover the
  Organization ID as a result.  This is very good reason to respond to 
  POC validation requests.

> How do you know they are not responding to anyone.  Just because they do not respond to ARIN means nothing.  And even if they are responding to ARIN, are you claiming that ARIN does not invalidate POCs if they get a response?  I again will claim otherwise.

  Please send us the the details and I will ascertain why they were
  marked invalid.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN