[arin-ppml] quantitative study of IPv4 address market

Blake Dunlap ikiris at gmail.com
Wed Sep 5 13:58:02 EDT 2012


Mike,

I am not trying to say that you are wrong here, but that actually isn't an
unheard of case. There are several large organizations off the top of my
head that exist as such, with the DoD as probably the prime example.

Also, even using RFC 1918 space doesn't mean you have unlimited IPs. You
have to keep in mind scalability of route protocols etc and hierarchical
routing. Even medium size companies have issues with running out of RFC
space, ESPECIALLY if they offer primarily net services like Microsoft
would, and need to interconnect with other organizations.

-Blake


On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Mike Burns <mike at nationwideinc.com> wrote:

> I admit to being out of my league here, is there a hosting organization
> who thinks a 2% routed rate is realistic for a block of 660,000 addresses?
> And ARIN is OK with handing out addresses with a 2% routed rate, simply to
> prevent problems associated with hypothetical future acquisitions?
> And this is so common that the fact that the very first public deal has
> these characteristics, and we are to accept that coincidence?
>
> Regards,
> Mike
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> -----Original Message----- From: John Curran
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 1:36 PM
> To: Mike Burns
> Cc: Milton L Mueller ; <arin-ppml at arin.net>
>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] quantitative study of IPv4 address market
>
> On Sep 5, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com>
> wrote:
>
>  There are over 17 million RFC 1918 addresses that can be privately used!
>>
>
> Not if you don't want horrible conflicts when you acquire or merge in
> any other organization.
>
>  Can anybody speculate on a valid justification for the delivery of
>> 660,000 addresses required to be used within a year, with 98% of them to be
>> unrouted?
>>
>
> Speak with nearly any hosting organization, particularly given today's
> unique IP address needs for virtual servers.
>
> FYI,
> /John
>
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> ARIN
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