[arin-ppml] POC privacy

Lee Dilkie lee at dilkie.com
Sun Oct 28 10:32:41 EDT 2012

On 10/26/2012 6:55 PM, Patrick Klos wrote:
> Chu, Yi [NTK] wrote:
>> Good story aside, some people may not appreciate the fact that any
>> anonymous person on earth can track them down, especially the pizza
>> guy had no business in the network.
>> I take this story as indication that the current system is lacking
>> concern for privacy.
> I don't think the story has any privacy implications whatsoever?  It
> was just a good story about how resourceful some people can be when
> they need to contact someone who is otherwise incommunicado!  (and I
> suspect the pizza guy was somehow compensated for his "delivery"?)
> If a person or entity has resources on the [public] Internet, and
> those resources are misbehaving in one way or another, why shouldn't
> "any anonymous person on earth" be able to track down the owner or
> operator/ISP of those resources to make sure they're aware of the bad
> behavior??  Whether people "appreciate" that level of responsibility
> or not, they get it when they sign up for the [public] Internet.
> If one of my hosts on one of my networks was causing an issue or not
> working properly, I hope that some kind [anonymous] person would
> attempt to contact me ASAP so I can deal with the issue.  I have no
> reason to hide from anyone, and I certainly don't want any of my
> equipment to cause trouble for my customers or anyone else on the
> Internet!
> Patrick Klos
> Klos Technologies, Inc.

The only alternative to public disclosure and the sort of cooperative
policing of the internet as it exists today is to form, and fund, an
official "internet police" force that has the legal means, and
authority, to investigate all the internet players. This is normally how
societies deal with this issue in the physical world. For the current
experiment to work, privacy does take a back seat. It remains to be seen
how long the current situation will last.


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