[arin-ppml] POC privacy

Christoph Blecker cblecker at gmail.com
Fri Oct 26 14:54:45 EDT 2012

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Kevin Kargel <kkargel at polartel.com> wrote:
> .
> What are people worried about that they feel their POC information should be "private"??
>         1.      A little spam?!?  I get so little spam on my POC email addresses, it's silly to worry about it!
>         2.      What else?  Privacy??  Businesses (legitimate ones, anyway) have no reason to hide themselves!
> <kjk>  One other point I wanted to make here going further on point #2 - Businesses using a *shared* resource such as the *shared* public internet not only have no reason to hide themselves, they have an obligation to be reachable by the members of the community they are sharing the resources with.  If they don't want to participate in the shared public resource then they don't need shared public resources in the first place.  The simple act of reserving a globally unique address consumes a shared resource and obligates the consumer to be reachable, even if the globally unique address is never routed globally. JMO </kjk>

While I can't speak for Mike (who originally mentioned this at open
mic during ARIN30), I don't believe his intention was ever to hide all
POCs for an organization or to somehow hide from the global community.
My understanding of his intention was that the public facing contacts
(NOC, peering coordinator, abuse team, legal department) are many
times different then the people who are interacting with ARIN (senior
engineers, architects, etc). Hiding the latter could potentially
*improve* communication, by funneling the external communications
through the intended channels that can actually do something with
those communications.

While I agree with all your points that organizations using public
shared resources should be open and transparent, I really don't think
that's what we're talking about. This is a great discussion to have,
hopefully we can just keep it focused.


>         What good is a "private" POC?  Who would ever got to use it if it's private???
>         Can someone come up with a single legitimate example of why they should have public Internet resources assigned to them, but their contact information should be hidden from the world??

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