[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement

Brian Johnson bjohnson at drtel.com
Thu Nov 1 15:26:50 EDT 2012

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of David Farmer
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:54 AM
> To: Martin Hannigan
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-183 Section 8.4 Transfer enhancement
> On 10/30/12 15:32 , Martin Hannigan wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:11 PM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
> ...
> >> Section 8.4 is fairly specific that there needs to be a reciprocal policy at
> >> the other RIR, if you remember I argued against that, but that is ARIN's
> >> policy.
> >
> > +1
> >
> >> I'm willing to accept this on to the docket in order to not create a
> >> catch-22, and make it clear ARIN is willing to consider this of other RIRs
> >> are too.  However, I'm not sure significant effort should be put into it
> >> until at least ASN transfers have been proposed at another RIR.
> >
> > Why bother working on policy if you aren't going to take it seriously?
> > That also implies that we don't take registry accuracy seriously FWIW.
> I do take this policy seriously and even support it.  But without
> reciprocal policy at another RIR this is actually an irrelevant piece of
> policy.  So unless there is some sign of another RIR taking up the
> issue, I believe the ARIN community has more important and timely issues
> to work on.

I think we need to curb our desire to be flippant.

I agree with Martin that this is a valid topic and agree with David that this is a lower priority until we have other RIRs in discussion on the issue.

> As a sign of good faith to the other RIRs I'd be willing to take this on
> the docket, I don't want to send the message we're not interested, like
> I said I support this.   However, without some sign of another RIR
> taking up the issue, I couldn't in good faith prioritizes this over
> other policy issues.  I'm not saying it can't or won't get worked on,
> but that just about everything else should probably take priority over
> it, unless there is activity on the issue in another RIR.

+1 for putting this on the docket. It will show other RIRs that it is on our radar and that we will need reciprocal policy to implement it.

- Brian

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