[arin-ppml] Encouraging IPv6 Transition

Chris Grundemann cgrundemann at gmail.com
Thu May 17 11:21:10 EDT 2012

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> On May 16, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
>>   Look at ethernet... you pay the IEEE $2500 once, you get your OUI
>>   prefix.  Done, no renewal necessary.  It's hard enough to justify
>>   that $2500 once... but $1250 every year?

> The short answer is that layer 3 addressing operates in an entirely
> different context from layer 2 addressing. Layer 3 addressing must be
> globally unique. Layer 2 addressing only needs to be unique within
> a link. Layer 2 addressing operates in a completely flat topology.
> Layer 3 addresses are hierarchical and contain and/or define a
> certain amount of topological information.

The more I understand this position, the more it sounds like what is
being asked for is simply "free" GUA. Two things on that:

First, PA GUA (IPv6 addresses from your provider) should cost you
nothing additional to what you already must pay for Internet access
(assuming you have access for any one machine in your network - the
addresses do not have to be used to connect to the Internet). In fact,
even a free IPv6 tunnel comes with a free /48...

Second, if you want/need PI GUA as an end-user (not an ISP), there is
a one time fee and a $100/year maint. fee, not $1250 every year (the
higher yearly fees are for ISPs, if you are not connecting customers
to the Internet, I assume you would qualify as an end-user).

Do neither of these meet your needs?
How not?
And how does any of this (PA GUA, PI GUA, ULA) make IPv6 worse than IPv4?

Thanks for your insight,


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