[arin-ppml] Clarify /29 assignment identification requirement

Dmitry Burkov dburk at burkov.aha.ru
Wed May 2 22:38:32 EDT 2012

On May 3, 2012, at 5:28 AM, paul vixie wrote:

> On 5/3/2012 1:15 AM, Dmitry Burkov wrote:
>> Paul.
>> imho - the data should distributed - yes - it could be different for arin - as you
>> can easily can forget that you are responsible not only for US
> i have not made the mistake of forgetting non-us countries. rather, i am
> thinking in terms of the health of the internet economy, for the good of
> the world. we, the citizens of the internet, need accountability for
> those people and companies who are allowed to reserve unique internet
> resources such as numbers. and in case there's any question of
> russian/english word choices, let me say that i don't want such data to
> be "distributed" other than to trustworthy parties under nondisclosure
> and other restricted terms. if we allow for "distribution" in the sense
> of anyone and everyone being able to possess unrestricted copies of the
> aggregate of all registration information, then that would encourage
> registrants to hide, either from spammers, from criminals, and so on.

absolutely agree

> what i want for registration data is accuracy and fair/reasonable access
> to specific information at need.

no matter - I want to add only one  - as community decided.
Even today we have all necessary info to identify anyone on the net = the isuue is only should be concentarated or not?

>> Dima
>> ps
>> we should solve this issue any way - but not this way
>> superconcentration of power is dangerous for rirs
> as a child of the cold war, i know well the dangers of superconcentrated
> power. however, i am not willing to trade away accountability to get
> avoidance of concentration of power. instead i propose that the
> community formulate reasonable rules that balance the rights of
> registrants with the rights of the rest of the community, and that the
> community maintain vigilant control of the instruments they create
> (whether RIR's or governments or armies or police forces) to prevent
> abuses of any necessarily concentrated power.

it is now more the issue of cost of operations and legal risks... sorry - but I think that it should not be rirs responsibility
as we have no direct en user contracts
> -- 
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