[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-167 Removal of Renumbering Requirement for Small Multihomers

Joe Maimon jmaimon at chl.com
Tue May 1 19:43:45 EDT 2012


Bill,

I am not in favor of removing renumbering requirements at this time. 
Policy is too fresh to change it, data is too limited.

Joe

Bill Darte wrote:
> Joe,
> Are you for, or against the proposal?
> bd
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Joe Maimon <jmaimon at chl.com 
> <mailto:jmaimon at chl.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     Jo Rhett wrote:
>
>         On Apr 30, 2012, at 7:38 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>
>             it'll have to renumber. Which means I personally will have
>             to deal
>             with the pain.
>
>
>         Now I'm going to go back to the devil's advocate side again,
>         and also
>         point out that the pain of renumbering is not the horror, the
>         horror,
>         the horror that everyone makes it out to be. Painful, and
>         sometimes slow
>         when there are lots of external dependancies, but it's really
>         not as bad
>         as people make it out to be ;-)
>
>         --
>         Jo Rhett
>         Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and
>         internet
>         projects.
>
>
>
>     I suspect it would be more significant to note which of us have
>     not interacted with a significant renumbering event, rather than
>     the opposite.
>
>     The less often people renumber the more painful it is likely to be
>     when they do so, not just for themselves, but for everyone else
>     who may be faced with it at one point.
>
>     This is due to the pain being wholly self inflicted, in that
>     dependencies are formed and grown under the assumption of address
>     longevity.
>
>     To a much larger extent than normally practiced, varying amounts
>     of this self inflicted pain is avoidable with forethought,
>     planning, and self discipline.
>
>     Attributes which are usually far less prevalent then they should be.
>
>     Attributes which are not recognized as valuable without the
>     understanding and experience of renumbering, and that it is
>     neither always predictable nor avoidable.
>
>     The greater the emphasis placed on preparing for renumbering as
>     opposed to avoiding it, the more likely that workable technology
>     that properly abstracts the task is developed and deployed.
>
>     How renumber-able are the typical IPv6 deployments?
>
>
>     Joe
>
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