[arin-ppml] WhoWas Service Now in ARIN Online Announcement

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Wed Mar 28 15:42:52 EDT 2012


It goes back in time and should include all historical whois information available.

The only drawback is it prevents someone from denying their history. Personally, I don't see that as a bad thing.

Owen


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On Mar 28, 2012, at 1:04 PM, admin at directcolocation.com wrote:

> I guess it comes down to the fact of how they the ARIN intends to create
> the starting point on this service since it is a new service, does it go
> back in the historical past from the inception of the blocks that are
> assigned to such or does it go forward from this point of the service
> being created.
> 
> The key for his concern would be if they had problems in the past with the
> anti spammers and continued having the same kind of problem customers,
> then I could see the use of this service potential effecting the long term
> reputation, since the problem would be that some of the anti spammer
> groups that might use the service could refuse to work with this kind of
> operator so they could at least clean up there act.
> 
> Does anyone know if ARIN intends to start the service from this point
> forward and or go back into current historical data from the issuance of
> the blocks in the whois.
> 
> If they start it from this point on then I would look at it as an
> opportunity to get my house in order if you know that this is the kind of
> customers you have been targeting.
> 
> Donald Mahoney
> Network Engineer
> Direct Colocation
> 
> 
> On 3/28/12 2:31 PM, "Kevin Kargel" <kkargel at polartel.com> wrote:
> 
> It appears that after years of being harangued by 'anti-spam' cultists for
> access to historic WHOIS data in order to burnish their credentials as
> Official Spam Detectives and support their efforts to criminalize
> marketing and drag email back to the DARPA era, ARIN has finally thrown in
> the towel. I am frankly disappointed.
> Has this topic every been discussed? This needs not to be part of the
> Disciples of ARIN. I am optimistic this can be reversed pending
> discussion.
> Nicky Smith
> CAROLINANET.COM
> 336.346.6000 x105
> 
> I, for one, do not understand what you perceive the evil of a WhoWas service
> to be? Aside from the worst case of wasting admin time and budget I do not
> see a real down side to it's existence. Please elucidate.
> 
> I do remember the topic being discussed on more than one occasion.
> Kevin
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