[arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2012-3: ASN Transfers

Kevin Blumberg kevinb at thewire.ca
Thu Mar 15 19:56:38 EDT 2012


Chris,

Operators with 4 Byte ASN's are being turned away from peering in the ARIN region. The fact that there is 
almost zero take up of 4 Byte in the region shows there is an issue that shouldn't be ignored. 

I support this proposal and would suggest that just as it specifies IPv4 in the 8.3 text it should specify
2 Byte ASN's. 

Thanks,

Kevin Blumberg


> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Chris Grundemann
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:34 PM
> To: Jeffrey Lyon
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy 2012-3: ASN Transfers
> 
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 17:21, Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > From a marketing standpoint, there seems to be an understanding that
> > lower numbered AS means better established carrier. Those looking to
> > offer network services may wish to acquire older networks and merge
> > into the lower numbered AS. We are AS32421, and a customer of ours was
> > just issued a 4 digit ASN. I'd be willing to trade for aesthetic
> > reasons ;)
> 
> Thanks Jeffery, this is one I've seen stated before. The other one I've read is
> "peering relationships" - the idea being that you could assume peering
> relationships by assuming the AS of a previously established network.
> 
> So we have:
> 1) Aesthetics
> 2) Deception
> 
> I have to say I remain unconvinced that this policy does anything to better
> our community in any real way. In fact, the "deceiving folks by assuming
> another identity" use-case is probably a net-evil.
> 
> > This is the only reason I can think of.
> 
> If anyone else can think of something more necessary, I'd love to hear it.
> 
> Cheers,
> ~Chris
> 
> 
> > Thanks,
> > --
> > Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
> > jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net Black Lotus
> > Communications - AS32421 First and Leading in DDoS Protection
> > Solutions
> 
> 
> 
> --
> @ChrisGrundemann
> http://chrisgrundemann.com
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