[arin-ppml] IPv6 and WHOIS - Work Needed?

[Cameron Byrne]

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Robert E. Seastrom
<ppml at rs.seastrom.com> wrote:
>
> Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Hail PPML!
>>
>> Many of you have likely seen this article (or a similar one[1][2]) by
>> now: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57453738-83/fbi-dea-warn-ipv6-could-shield-criminals-from-police/
>>
>> The question it seems to raise for us is: "Will ARIN and the other
>> RIRs maintain accurate WHOIS for IPv6 long term, or will law
>> enforcement feel the need to step in directly?"
>
> The issue in this article seems to boil down to an assumption that
> coming back to ARIN every 15 years for more space is a step away from
> goodness when it comes to keeping whois data up to date.
>
> There's no difference in billing interval for IPv6 (vs existing IPv4)
> and everyone's under RSA so everyone gets a ping in the form of a bill
> and a check.  That represents a huge step forward from the status quo
> for IPv6.  My guess is that the aggregate accuracy of whois data in 10
> years will be "somewhat better" to "much better" than IPv4 is today,
> but not miraculously perfect.
>
> No NAT means a prayer of figuring out exactly whose computer was doing
> misdeeds (even with privacy hacks, far better than one pipe).  The
> Bureau's gotta be excited about that, at least I hope they are.
>
> The thing these guys need to be worried about is CGN.  You can't get a
> search warrant issued for a whole zip code.  For better or worse, IPv6
> is the way out of the woods.
>

+1

> My take is that the article is much ado about nothing.  Wish Declan
> had called someone for deep dive rather than sound bites.  Then again
> that may not sell advertising hits.
>

+1000

This issue has been bantered enough on NANOG.

CB

> -r
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