[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-172 Additional definition for NRPM Section 2 - Legacy Resources

[Stephen Sprunk]

On 07-Jun-12 15:24, Kevin Kargel wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
>> Behalf Of Owen DeLong
>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 3:14 PM
>> To: Martin Hannigan
>> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-172 Additional definition for NRPM
>> Section 2 - Legacy Resources
>>
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Bill Sandiford
>>> <bill at telnetcommunications.com> wrote:
>>>> So just out of curiosity, and certainly not proposing this, would do
>> you expect the outcome would be if the community passed a policy that stated that ARIN would no longer maintain registrations in its databases for registrants with which no contract exists?
>>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> See:
>>>
>>>     http://www.depository.net/
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> -M<
>> And when divergence begins to appear between what depository is providing and registrations maintained by ARIN, what do you think will happen?
> [kjk] A lot of that depends on the 2 ton gorilla theory that says he gets to sleep wherever he wants.  There are some pretty hefty gorillas in the legacy holder's roster.  At the very least pandemonium would reign for a time.

There will be no pandemonium.

The RIRs' databases have value because there is consensus among ISPs
that that's who they'll refer to when deciding whether to accept a
customer.  If/when alternative registries appear and begin to diverge,
why would the ISPs have reason to consult any database other than the RIRs'?

Even if ISPs _did_ consider looking at a different database for some
reason, what are the odds they'd all choose the _same_ alternative
database among the dozens (or more) that appear?  If they don't, every
registrant would have to pay fees to every alternative registry in order
to prevent divergence and therefore ensure that every ISP would accept
them as the legitimate registrant for the resources they claim.  That,
in the end, would cost far more time and money than simply joining the
RIR system in the first place.

Alternative registries are doomed to fail.  It's a bogeyman used by
those who try to scare the community into adopting bad policies--and to
bilk stupid venture capitalists.

S

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