[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-171 Section 8.4 Modifications: ASN and legacy resources

[Martin Hannigan]

On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
> On Jun 3, 2012, at 5:08 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>
>>>
>>> 8.4.6 Flawed Custody and Fraudulent Applications
>>>
>>> ARIN may reclaim legacy resources that fail chain of custody
>>> certifications or are deemed fraudulently obtained at it's discretion.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There has been some feedback that this is not a complete methodology
>> to consider with regards to custody. Its likely that some of the
>> transactions that would fail a chain of custody review or were
>> fraudulently obtained should be revoked, but should be also placed on
>> the equivalent of an abandoned property list since the resources have
>> value and someone might actually be entitled to that value.
>>
>> Does anyone have an opinion on the following rewrite:
>>
>> 8.4.6 Flawed Custody and Fraudulent Applications
>>
>> ARIN will reclaim resources that fail chain of custody certifications
>> or are deemed to have been fraudulently obtained. Such a reclaimed
>> resource will be placed on an abandoned resources list which shall be
>> available to the public.
>>
>> ///end
>>
>
> I prefer the original version. I trust staff to generally do the right thing
> and believe that publishing such a list would primarily be a tool for
> abuse more than a service to the community.

Allowing for people to recover their property would seem to outweigh
this concern.

[ snip ]

>> The logic here is that with enough information, someone will take the
>> effort to find a rightful "owner" if one exists and notify them of the
>> same. It is likely that there are a significant amount of resources
>> that were overlooked in a variety of transactions, bankruptcy, estates
>> of deceased persons, etc.
>
> Far more likely someone will see it as a list of potential hijacking targets.
> Even more likely that many will see it as a list of potential hijacking targets.

Many of them are already hijacked or being squatted. See above.


Best,

-M<