[arin-ppml] New Policy Proposal

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Fri Jul 27 15:58:44 EDT 2012

Isn't this already covered somehow?  As an ISP if I SWIP IP addresses to a
peer or a customer I understand that those addresses may require utilization

What makes the Canadian ISP's different from the rest of us so that they
should not be required to provide utilization data from their customers?

Are the Canadian ISP's required by government mandate to allocate IP's to
cable providers in some mandated quantity without any requirement for the
cable operators to provide need or utilization documentation?  How do you
determine how big of a block to assign them?

If this is to go through I believe it should be written to apply to all
ISP's equally without reference to local regulation such as TPIA, perhaps to
just accept SWIPs as utilized without documentation.  I do not believe I
would support that.  It would radically change my future planning.  

If I understand the problem better my position may change.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Bill Sandiford
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 1:51 PM
> To: policy at arin.net
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: [arin-ppml] New Policy Proposal
> 1. Policy Proposal Name: Reassignments for Third Party Internet Access
> (TPIA) over Cable
> 2. Proposal Originator
>  a. name: Bill Sandiford
>  b. email: bill at sandiford.com
>  c. telephone: 905-409-5228
>  d. organization: Telnet Communications
> 3. Proposal Version: 1
> 4. Date: July 27, 2012
> 5. Proposal type: new
> 6. Policy term: permanent
> 7. Policy statement:
> Insert new section to NRPM to read as follows:
> Reassignments for Third Party Internet Access (TPIA) over Cable
> When IP address resources are reassigned by an ISP to an underlying cable
> carrier for use with TPIA, those addresses shall be deemed as utilized
> once they are assigned to equipment by the underlying cable carrier.
> 8. Rationale:
> A unique situation exists particularly, and perhaps only, in the Canadian
> region that is preventing legitimate ISPs from obtaining subsequent
> allocations of IPv4 addresses for use with the Third Party Internet Access
> (TPIA) framework that has been mandated by the CRTC (Canada's version of
> the FCC).  Adding this section to the NRPM will allow ISPs that intend to
> make use of this CRTC mandated framework to obtain the number resources
> that they require but are currently unable to obtain.
> 9. Timetable for implementation: immediate
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