[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2012-5: Removal of Renumbering Requirement for Small Multihomers

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Tue Jul 31 21:17:55 EDT 2012

There's been a lot of discussion here about this between Seth
and I. How do others feel about putting in a restriction that subsequent
non-renumbered requests wait one-year after submitting the prior

Generally, I oppose the idea of a waiting period as an unnecessary
inconvenience both to the requestor and to staff which provides little,
if any benefit to the community. However, if that will help us move the
policy proposal forward with greater consensus, then I would consider
it an acceptable tradeoff. I would like to hear more from the community
about whether such a modification to this proposal would increase or
decrease your willingness to support it.


On Jul 31, 2012, at 14:22 , Seth Mattinen wrote:

> On 7/31/12 12:56 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> When I think of a "small" org I think of all the ones I've dealt with in
>>> the past and present that could easily survive on a single /24 for
>>> years, if not for the life of the org. I *do not* see it as "starter" PI
>>> space that they'd quickly outgrow.
>> There are many sizes of organizations in the real world. Some small
>> multi-homed organizations can, indeed, survive on a /24 for many years
>> and may well be doing so. Others have a one-year growth projection that
>> really maxes out their /24 and will grow beyond it in about one year.
>> Others will grow slower or faster than that.
>> Sometimes you have a realistic growth projection that exceeds a /24
>> in a year, but you cannot convince ARIN of the realism of that plan.
>> I would not call having to get more space in 6 months because of that
>> poor planning. However, I can accept the argument for an 18 month
>> moratorium, but would strongly prefer 12 or less, if any.
> I would concede to 12 months since 4.3.3 only requires the requesting
> org to plan one year in advance.
> ~Seth
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