[arin-ppml] Residential Customers

Cameron Byrne cb.list6 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 20 13:10:06 EDT 2012

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Heather Schiller
<heather.skanks at gmail.com> wrote:
> If you are referring to SWIP requirements for residential subscribers
> (and that ISP's may keep them private) -- don't most mobile
> subscribers get dynamically assigned IP's or exist behind a NAT?  In
> those cases you wouldn't SWIP to an individual anyway.

Yes, most mobile subscribers get dynamic IP addresses, which is the
same for most Cable and DSL subscribers.  NAT is a separate matter
which is not considered / required in NRPM.


> --Heather
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Cameron Byrne <cb.list6 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear PPML,
>> Are mobile network subscribers considered residential customers?
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#two13
>> 2.13. Residential Customer
>> End-users who are individual persons and not organizations and who
>> receive service at a place of residence for personal use only are
>> considered residential customers.
>> I would say yes.  There is no meaningful distinction from a IP
>> resource utilization perspective,  a cable CMTS is nearly equivalent
>> to a mobile GGSN / PDSN, no?
>> Mobile subscribers are certainly not "ISPs", they do no
>> sub-delegate...  or even "Enterprise Networks" ... mobile subscribers
>> are 1 IP per subscription.
>> How should ARIN staff be interpreting this term "Residential Customer"
>> with regards to mobile network?  Are they or are they not "residential
>> customers"?
>> Thanks,
>> Cameron
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