[arin-ppml] Residential Customers

[Chris Grundemann]

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Cameron Byrne <cb.list6 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I would say yes, a natural person qualifies as a residential customer. If ARIN interprets the policy differently, we can of course make the policy more explicit.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>
>
> Yes, ARIN has informed me that since the service is not to PHYSICAL
> residence, it does not apply.
>
> This seemed strange to me, not sure why IP policy would apply to OSI
> Layer 1 media type.  Is an official wording change required or just
> guidance to the ARIN staff?

In what context did they say this? What specifically are we talking
about (in what way do you need "residential customer" to apply)?

~Chris

> CB
>
>
>> On Jul 20, 2012, at 7:55 AM, Cameron Byrne <cb.list6 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear PPML,
>>>
>>> Are mobile network subscribers considered residential customers?
>>>
>>> https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#two13
>>>
>>> 2.13. Residential Customer
>>>
>>> End-users who are individual persons and not organizations and who
>>> receive service at a place of residence for personal use only are
>>> considered residential customers.
>>>
>>> I would say yes.  There is no meaningful distinction from a IP
>>> resource utilization perspective,  a cable CMTS is nearly equivalent
>>> to a mobile GGSN / PDSN, no?
>>>
>>> Mobile subscribers are certainly not "ISPs", they do no
>>> sub-delegate...  or even "Enterprise Networks" ... mobile subscribers
>>> are 1 IP per subscription.
>>>
>>> How should ARIN staff be interpreting this term "Residential Customer"
>>> with regards to mobile network?  Are they or are they not "residential
>>> customers"?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Cameron
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