[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-162 Redefining request window in 4.2.4.4

[Jeffrey Lyon]

On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Joe Maimon <jmaimon at chl.com> wrote:
>
>
> Chris Grundemann wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 08:45, Joe Maimon<jmaimon at chl.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> The existence of IPv6 has not made IPv4 any less relevant or in demand.
>>> The
>>> runout and exhaustion of IPv4 has not may IPv6 any more then marginally
>>> more
>>> relevant and in demand.
>
> /marginal/
>
>> I must disagree with you here Joe. While I do agree that IPv6 has not
>> made IPv4 any less relevant yet (and it won't until we reach some
>> tipping point in global adoption), I have to take issue with the
>> second statement.
>>
>> IPv6 interest, demand, and deployment is at an all time high.
>
>
> It doesnt sound like we disagree at all. I agree with your statement and you
> agree with mine.
>
> That all time high is however, pitifully small compared to where it was
> expected and hoped to be.
>
> A lot more of almost nothing is still just a little more than nothing.
>
>
>
>>  Since
>> the protocol is more than a decade old, I have to attribute at least
>> some of this to the exhaustion of IPv4 free pools. General awareness
>> of IPv6 has skyrocketed in the past 2 years. IPv6 deployments at major
>> service providers have recently started shifting from trials to
>> production roll-outs. IPv6 is happening and I think that we must give
>> some of the credit to IPv4 free pool exhaustion.
>
>
> Credit for the advances you cite goes to advocacy and public relations, not
> to actual hardships experienced by those attempting to obtain and utilize
> IPv4.
>
> While the former looks to be a long hard slow slog, the latter is
> exceedingly unwise to attempt to embark on.
>
>
> Joe
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All,

I'm a bit late to this discussion, but it would seem beneficial to me
to leave 4.2.4.4 as-is and adopt ARIN-2011-12 in order to encourage
commercial users to utilize the transfer market, lending to austerity
of the free pool.

.. or have I missed the point altogether?

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Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
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