[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal -- Normalize Free pool and Transfer justification periods

[Michael Sinatra]

I would support that.

I am at a conference now, but I am trying to remember when we hit the
requirement for only being able to make micro-allocations for transition
technologies.  Is that the last /10?

On 1/23/12 2:25 PM, Alexander, Daniel wrote:
> 
> Does anyone share my opinion that the soft landing approach of three month
> allocations was a good idea, but the trigger may have been off? Instead of
> making all timeframes equal, would it make better sense to just tweak
> section 4.2.4.4?
> 
> Replace:
> 
> "When ARIN receives its last /8, by IANA implementing section 10.4.2.2,
> the length of supply that an organization may request will be reduced. An
> organization may choose to request up to a 3-month supply of IP
> addresses." 
> 
> With:
> 
> "When ARIN's available pool of IPv4 address space is less than an
> equivalent /8, the length of supply that an organization may request will
> be reduced. An organization may choose to request up to a 3-month supply
> of IP addresses."
> 
> This was discussed in the past, but may be worth another visit. One
> concern I have over prop-161 is it eliminates the soft landing that many
> thought was a good idea.
> 
> Dan Alexander
> Speaking as myself
> 
> 
> On 1/13/12 5:41 PM, "Michael Sinatra" <michael at rancid.berkeley.edu> wrote:
> 
>> On 1/13/12 1:06 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Owen DeLong<owen at delong.com>  wrote:
>>>>     1. Policy Proposal Name: Normalize Free pool and Transfer
>>>> justification
>>>> periods
>>>
>>> Hi Owen,
>>>
>>> I OPPOSE this proposal in concept and in the particulars.
>>>
>>> The sole purpose of needs-based policy, the only one, is to suppress
>>> frivolous consumption of a limited common resource. With transfers,
>>> significant and growing sums of money change hands, a fact inherently
>>> suppresses frivolous use. The need to suppress transfer-based
>>> consumption with policy, if it exists at all, is consequently much
>>> less than with free pool consumption.
>>>
>>> Just as the regulations which apply to a strip mine are not
>>> appropriate when applied to a recycler, rules which are perfectly
>>> rational for free pool allocations can be onerous and excessive for
>>> transfers. "One size fits all" is entirely inappropriate here.
>>
>> Hi Bill:
>>
>> My hunch is that your implicit assumption is that the transfer market
>> currently clears itself efficiently, or some close approximation
>> thereof.  I disagree with that assumption, even if you don't hold it :).
>>  I became especially aware of the problems arising from the uneven
>> run-out and the issues surround ARIN's current "protection" of its free
>> pool from the discussions in Philadelphia.  To be honest, there are a
>> lot of issues that will be resolved once the RIRs' free pools run out
>> and they transfer markets can operate with (relatively) low distortion.
>>  I am not interested in speeding the run-out, but I am also not
>> interested in the continued unnecessary protection of the free pool.  As
>> Geoff Huston pointed out, IPv4 addresses should be used.  The fact that
>> Geoff comes from the the APNIC region does not skew my view of his
>> opinion, BTW.
>>
>> Forcing ISPs to run up the price of IPv4 resources on the transfer
>> market should not be a part of ARIN policy, but it unfortunately is at
>> this point.  That hurts everyone.
>>
>> If it's not obvious already, I support Owen's proposal, and thank him
>> for submitting it.  (I was going to propose the same thing during the
>> Philadelphia meeting, but I was busy and/or lazy.  Sorry about that.)
>>
>> michael
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