[arin-ppml] Prop-151: Limiting needs requirements for IPv4 transfers

[David Farmer]

On 1/17/12 10:25 CST, William Herrin wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Alexander, Daniel
> <Daniel_Alexander at cable.comcast.com>  wrote:
>> My impression is that the word "compatible" provides the flexibility to
>> the RIR without imposing the burden of having to review every request. If
>> ARIN staff observes transfer behavior in a region that is questionable, it
>> could raise the issue to the AC and the BoT. I would presume that
>> inter-RIR transfers could then be put on hold while an understanding of
>> the situation is achieved.
>
> Dan,
>
> You're missing the point. It isn't a question of other RIRs behaving
> badly, it's about what happens when each RIR behaves normally and
> reasonably. Under 2011-1, the other RIR will apply their ordinary
> policies to the recipient. If not behaving badly, they'll apply the
> same policies they apply to any other recipient.
>
> In general, those policies are less strict than ARINs. Not because of
> any malfeasance but because that's how they chose to set their own
> local policies. This means that an ARIN recipient will have a harder
> time qualifying his network to ARIN for receipt of a particular
> transfer of ARIN-region addresses than an out-region recipient to his
> RIR for the same transfer.
>
> That's unfair. Were it an ARIN-region registrant trying to transfer
> addresses from another region that unfairness wouldn't be so
> objectionable. But when it's an ARIN-region registrant trying to
> capture ARIN-region addresses, the unfairness is manifest.

Bill,

Can you please provide specific policies of the other RIRs you feel are 
less strict.  When I look at the policies I see them as more or less 
equivalent, on some issues we are more strict and on others we are less, 
but we seem to be in the same ballpark on most everything.  So, yes, the 
polices are not identical.  But, on balance, I don't believe there is 
that significant of a difference, at least not enough difference to 
justify calling it unfair.

There seems to be a general impression that the other RIR's policies are 
more lax than ARIN's, but I don't believe that is born out in reality.

The current NRO comparative overview is located at;

http://www.nro.net/rir-comparative-policy-overview/rir-comparative-policy-overview-2011-03 


Previous version can be found at;

http://www.nro.net/policies/rir-comparative-policy-overview

I'm willing to be convinced that there are differences that matter. 
However, I'm unwilling just take this as "everybody knows" the other 
RIRs are less strict, I need a much stronger argument.

Thanks
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